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November 6:
Stacey
Baker's 6th-8th Grade
Science and Technology Classes
Pleasant Hill School, Peoria,
IL
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How can you
tell how much a dinosaur weighed
if you only have the bones?
Answer:
This is a very good question.
It requires knowing something
about living animals and making
some analogies. When we discovered
Jobaria, a long-necked plant
eating dinosaur in the sauropod
sauropod family, we compared
to another large, four-legged,
plant eating animal - an elephant.
You can make a small flesh model
of the dinosaur, calculate the
volume, and then calculate how
much that volume of flesh would
weigh (flesh has a very similar
weight as water) in a living
animal. Then you have to multiply
up to the size of the dinosaur
you want to estimate. For example,
your measurements might suggest
that a sauropod might weight
four times as much as an elephant.
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Can the plaster
damage the bones? How do you
treat them so it won't?
Answer:
Plaster is difficult to remove
from bones and so we try not
to get plaster directly on the
bones. Once a bone is partially
excavated and ready for a jacket,
we cover any exposed bone with
a "separator" - something that
will separate the bones from
direct contact with the plaster
and burlap. We usually use moist
paper towel or tin foil.
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Has there ever
been any dinosaur fossils found
under the ocean?
Answer:
Some dinosaur skeletons have
been found in ocean rocks that
are now exposed on land. Usually
it takes so much walking and
searching to find a dinosaur
bone that it isn't worth it
to try and do this underwater.
Another thing to keep in mind
is that most of the land rocks
that would have dinosaur bone
preserved in them are still
exposed on dry land - you don't
really need to work under the
ocean.
- Can a government take back
a dinosaur if it's found in that
country?
Answer:
A country can under international
law "repatriate" (take back) fossils
or artifacts. Today, most bones
are usually returned to the country
they are discovered as part of
cooperative agreements. Part of
our cooperation with Niger includes
the understanding that the bones
we find will be returned to the
National Museum in Niamey once
we have cleaned and studied them
in our lab at the University of
Chicago. In some cases we have
found multiple skeletons of the
same species, and in the future
we may make an agreement to keep
some of these fossils as a study
collection at the University of
Chicago.
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Why don't museums
display the real bones? What
is your opinion of why the dinosaurs
are extinct and do you have
any new support to back that
up?
Answer:
Many museums do display real
bones. Some are in display cases
and some - like large bones
or skulls - are outside display
cases. Some mounted skeletons
of dinosaurs are made of original
fossils as well. Today, however,
it is more common that mounted
skeletons are composed of "casts"
of the real bones. There are
two reasons for this: firstly,
fossils are fragile and are
often damaged in the process
of mounting the skeleton. Secondly,
the bones are very heavy and
the skeleton requires extra
metal support and this can detract
from its appearance.
What is your opinion of why
the dinosaurs are extinct and
do you have any new support
to back that up?
Answer:
The evidence is not very strong
that an asteroid hit the earth
65 million years ago and caused
many extinctions, including
the many of the dinosaurs. Another
factor may have been climate
change. Just at the same time
there was a sudden drop in sea
level, that exposed many land
surfaces formerly covered by
water. The climate on land changed
dramatically and this may also
have contributed to the extinction
of dinosaurs.
Thomas Tucker's
5th Grade Science Class
Apollo Elementary, Aledo, IL
- What kind of notes do you take
while you are digging out a fossil?
What kind of information is important
to keep track of during this process?
Answer:
Three basic things: locality information,
configuration of the bones, nature
of the surrounding sediment. You
need to note where you found the
bones. We use a latitude and longitude
(every spot on the globe has a
particular latitude and longitude
- lines drawn on the globe). You
need to map and number the bones
so you have some record of what
bone was next to what other bone
and where you can find a particular
bone. And you need some notes
on the surrounding rock so that
you know the environment that
the dinosaur was in at the time
it died (for example, a river).
- When you are digging out fossil
bones, what is your "worst nightmare?"
Answer:
The worst thing is that you break
irreparably some delicate bones,
or leave important bones behind.
Once while excavating Jobaria
we were four feet down in the
ground and the rock was very hard.
We only had time to dig a foot
beyond the last bone and there
was just a shadow of a doubt that
we might have left something in
the ground. We ran out of time
and couldn't pursue the site further.
Our hand were sore from pounding
on the rock. We think we got the
last bone of the tail, but we
are not absolutely sure.
- What do you do when you know
there are fossils is a certain
area and you can't find the money
to fund an expedition?
Answer:
You work harder to find the money.
Sometimes it can take years. It
took us four years (from 1993
to 1997) to return to the mass
graveyard that preserved multiple
Jobaria skeletons. In some cases
you can ask people in the area
to keep an eye on the site and
protect it for you from fossil
pillagers or tourists to help
ensure the site is still there
when you get back.
- Dinosaur bones seem to be more
and more valuable. (Sue the T.
rex at the Natural History Museum
in Chicago) Are there any problems
with people there stealing the
bones in order to sell them and
make money?
Answer:
Dinosaur bones have always been
valuable - but its difficult for
scientists to think in terms of
dollars for something that is
irreplaceable, and sometimes unique.
Yes, there are some problems with
this. It is a common problem in
the United States. It is something
that we are trying to prevent
from happening in the areas we
are currently working in Niger.
They now have a law that is stronger
than our own laws in the United
States. It is illegal to sell
any fossils from Niger.
- In some places where fossils
are found the climate is very
different now than when the animals
died. Do you think global warming
is real and could it cause big
changes for us here in the Midwest
like the changes that have happened
in the fossil record?
Answer:
Yes. Global warming will have
an effect far beyond the shores
of our continent, which will experience
a rise in sea level from melting
ice. Some areas will receive more
rain, some less. It could cause
big environmental change and extinctions
beyond those already being caused
by human activities. I am sure
that we will be affected - even
in the Midwest.
Sue Kouri's
4th and 5th Grade Gifted Classes
Highlands
School
Naperville, IL
- What is your favorite childhood
book? Did it teach you any lessons
you use when fossil hunting?
Answer:
I loved Tom Sawyer and I loved
the idea of going down the big
river, and traveling to exotic
cities and far away places. You
need to have a spirit of adventure
and a love of discovery. I think
that Tom also used a map when
looking for buried treasure (?),
and I use maps all the time. -Paul
I loved Winnie the Pooh and Christopher
Robin when I was a kid - mostly
because my dad used to read them
to me and my brother when I was
little and I remember very clearly
the episode when Christopher Robin
and Pooh go on an expedition -
which, I think, they spelled "expedishun"
- and I remember thinking how
cool it would be to go on an adventure
like an expedition. -Gabe
- What do you miss the most when
you're in the field? What do you
do to cure that yearning? Or does
the work keep your mind off your
home?
Answer:
I miss a lot of things, like
special people, the comforts of
home, and my favorite foods. However,
the adventure, excitement, pressure
and general activity level of
an expedition keep my mind far
from all of that. We are in the
middle of a great expedition -
I wish I had a little more time
here in the beautiful desert.
The only thing I miss is listening
to the radio. I get most of my
news (and music) from Public Radio.
I do have a shortwave radio and
at night we can pick up English
language stations, but mostly
I am too tired to listen for very
long. I don't miss TV because
I don't watch it that much. I
do, however, look forward to watching
all of the X-Files episodes I
missed. -Gabe
- When you get home, what is
the first thing you will do?
Answer:
The first thing I'll do when I
get home to Canada is eat goronzola
marscapone cheese and a two pound
lobster cooked in brine with fresh
dill - Hans
Go with my friend RMS to Burger
King and get a whopper. Then I
will go to Morry's and eat a double
hot dog and drink a gallon Dr.
Pepper. That night I will go to
eat pesto pizza at Giordano's
and drink more Dr. Pepper.- Jack
I'm turning off all the phones
- E. Love
I will get home just in time for
Christmas and I will see my relatives.
Then I have to go apartment hunting
in Washington DC because I have
a new job at the Smithsonian.
-Chris
Take a long, hot, bath and shave.
Then I'll find something to eat
with some friends - Tim
Call my parents and tell them
I'm safe at home because they
always worry. Then I'll have a
big glass of orange juice. Then
it's food and sleep. The thing
I'm most excited about is taking
my 8000 digital pictures and sorting
them and printing them out from
my computer at home. - Mike
I will head straight for Flip's
on Roosevelt road and have cheese
fries and an Italian beef with
a large RC. - Dave
First thing I am going to go on
a long run on the Chicago lakefront.
Then I will go with someone special
to my favorite restaurant on Sheffield
and Clark. - Allison
First Paul and I will probably
take Dino Dog for a walk in his
new home after his trans-Atlantic
flight. Then we'll call our families
and make a beeline to our favorite
Chinese restaurant (Hong Min)
where Paul will put extra chili
sauce on everything and I will
eat a whole order of pot stickers
all by myself. -Gabe
You bet! And I will eat a candy
bar (they melt in the desert,
so we really can't bring them.
-Paul
- How would you be able to accurately
determine how a dinosaur died
if you even can?
Answer:
Most of the time you can't determine
how a dinosaur died, because the
illness, the attack by a predator,
or the other common any other
reasons for death (e.g., drowning)
leave no marks on the bones. Sometimes
we find injuries that have healed,
and sometimes we find teeth marks
on the bones, but these don't
tell us why the animal died. At
first you might think that tooth
marks would tell us for sure that
a predator ate a dinosaur; but
was the dinosaur dead first before
being eaten? We are very happy
to find their skeletons without
knowing how they died! We often
know a lot more about how they
got buried.
- How much garbage does the team
produce each day on average? What
do you do with your garbage?
Answer:
Actually our team of 14 produces
less garbage than you might think
because we recycle quite a bit.
Packages - cardboard boxes, oatmeal
containers, powdered juice containers,
dehydrated meat and coffee cans
- all are great for packing fossils
in. We even save the plastic bags
some of our dehydrated food comes
in for packaging. We separate
out batteries, glass and metal
and usually give these to people
who can use them. Leftover food
we bury and everything else we
burn. At some of our camps we
"pack-out" our trash and bring
it back to Agadez and contribute
it to the town dump.
- What other types of fossils
do you find besides dinosaurs?
What suggestions would you give
if I wanted to find fossils in
my own town? Do you think it would
be possible to find any?
Answer:
The only fossils you can find
in Naperville are Ice Age fossils
(not even a million years old).
You have to first find out if
there are any rocks exposed or
if they are all covered by soil.
Next, you need to find out how
old the rocks are in your area,
and if any fossils have been recorded.
In Naperville, we are on the banks
of the DuPage river, and these
river deposits cover almost all
the nearby rocks, so the only
thing you might be able to find
are ice age fossils in the overlying
soils. What I did when I went
fossil hunting as a kid was to
go to a quarry and I went to Braidwood
Coal mine. Both of these places
are closed now, but occasionally
the Illinois Geological Survey
leads family fossil finding trips
that kids can take part in.
- Parent Question: Has there ever
been anything you forgot and had
to go back for?
Answer:
No. Going back is not really
an option once we leave the states.
In some cases if we forget something,
or something breaks (like computer
equipment for our website project)
we might be able to have a visitor
bring it in for us. -Gabe
What was your funniest meal?
Answer:
Our "funnest" meal is unquestionably
Chris Sidor's Mac and Cheese.
We have two "funny meals." One
time, in 1997, we were given a
gazelle to cook for dinner. The
gift just happened to correspond
with Thanksgiving and we had roasted
gazelle with rehydrated corn,
cranberry sauce (made from dried
cranberries), and vanilla pudding
in a four-pound can for dessert.
-Gabe
Have you ever been stuck in horrible
sand storms while you were digging?
Answer:
Suchomimus, the crocodile
mimic, was excavated almost entirely
during a week-long sandstorm.
We had to put the trucks around
the site to block the wind and
we put canvas bags over our heads,
cut holes for eyes, and put goggles
over them. At night the wind was
so strong some people slept inside
trucks because their tents had
been torn apart. -Gabe
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